Minutes of the Management Meeting held at Ripley Castle - Tuesday, November 04, 2003
MEMBERS PRESENT
Messrs John Barrett. Jeff Watkins. Erik Thompson.
Peter Bentley. Steven Coombs. Eric Houseman. Bruce Jackson. Tony Whittaker. Roger Deakin. Barry Gill. Neil Burtwistle and Mrs Tricia Heard.
APOLOGIES
were received from Sir Thomas. Bill Kitson. Peter Crack. Chris Newton and Ben Drummond.
CHAIRMAN
In the absence of Sir Thomas – Erik Thompson Chaired the meeting.
WELCOME
Barry Gill was welcomed back to the Management Committee – this time as Cup Competitions Secretary.
MATTERS ARISING
There were no matters arising.
CORRESPONDENCE AND SECRETARY’S BUSINESS
Thircon C.C. is to merge with Raskelf C.C. Raslelf will have a 1st and 2nd X1 both playing in Division 3. The proviso being that the teams will play each other as early in the season as possible.
Pannal 3rd will play home fixtures at Glasshouses
Pannal 4th will play home fixtures at St Aidans School
Harrogate Gas Sports needed assistance re the take over of their ground. Not heard anything further.
Annual General Meeting will take place on Monday January 19th 2004 at Ripley Town Hall at 7.30pm.
Officials League Solicitor David Burton. Assistant Secretary Bill Kitson and Representative Team Manager Alex Houseman all retire on rotation. Alex Houseman has resigned. David Burton and Bill Kitson have both been nominated and seconded and Steven Potter has been nominated and seconded for the position of Representative Team Manager. They will be elected unopposed.
Members Steven Coombs. Peter Crack and Tony Whittaker retire on rotation, all proposed and seconded and will be re-elected unopposed.
Disciplinary Panel. The following are all willing to stand for a further year - Roger Deakin. John Lyons. Dave Owram. Goff Wetherall and Brian Vast.
Ratify at the Annual General Meeting. Roger Deakin Disciplinary Panel Secretary and Barry Gill Cup Competitions Secretary.
Arthington Martin Binks has offered to re design the Result sheet for next season. Yes – lets see what he comes up with.
Advertising in the Hand Book Cost per page to remain at £30.
TREASURERS REPORT
Balance at bank £9.747 and stock of balls in hand.
UMPIRES SECRETARY REPORT
The last two months we were rather short of umpires but overall we had a good season. There are 13 persons on the Umpires Course that is running at present so hopefully there will be a few new umpires for 2004.
Guy Smalley who is running the course does not get any remuneration for doing so.
The Management Agreed a cheque for £25 to be sent to Guy in acknowledgement of his work for the league. The treasurer to send the cheque.
GROUND COMMITTEE REPORT
Most Improved Ground Alsmford Oval where Harrogate Strays play their Home Fixtures. Tony Coates Groundsman. Basic Average Ground Mark should be added to Rule 26 Promotion and Relegation. Basic average mark of 12.
In view of the consistent low marking of all other grounds in Division 7 by North Stainley, their marks have been excluded from the formula used to calculate the divisional award. A letter pointing out that their making of other grounds is unacceptable is being sent to North Stainley.
DISCIPLINARY COMMITTEE REPORT
Met to discuss two incidents Tom Ryder ( Alne ) - sent letter of apology - warned as to his future conduct and suspended for the first two matches of 2004 season.
Ben Nami ( Hampsthwwiate ) – Years Ban. Have appealed – Date of appeal Hearing Nov 17th 2004.
( Umpires did not report the incident until asked for. Letter to go to umpires advising that all serious incidents must be reported to the League Secretary for onward transference to the Disciplinary Panel Secretary.
Start of the 2004 season April 24th 2004.
JUNIOR LEAGUE REPORT
Sub Committee Ed Cousens Chairman and Barry Gill Secretary.
Assets transferred from the Harrogate Coaching Association £2000.
Constitution needed. Eric Houseman proposed that a second Junior Player to be awarded a Scarborough Scholarship in Memory of Reg Dickens and funded by our league.
SIX ASIDE INDOOR JUNIOR LEAGUE
Letters and forms have been sent to all club. Initial indications are that the response will be very good . In addition to the clubs taking part last year I have had three other interested clubs.
It is likely that there will be an increase in the cost of hiring the Recreation Centre and we will have to budget for higher charges. In the past the League have subsidised one third of the Centre Fees. Plus paying for the balls used and the clubs being charged for the remainder. This effectively worked out at a cost of £1 per player per match. At an estimate there will be a 50% increase per player.
DINNER
£25 per ticket. Starter Salmon. Main Course Beef followed by Apple Pie and Custard and Cheese and Biscuits. Beer Price £2.00 per pint and House Wine £9.95.
Sir Thomas’ reception room is “The James Room”. John Barrett authorised to purchase 3 good prizes and Committee Members asked to donate as in previous years.
PROPOSED RULE CHANGES ( 2004)
MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE
Rule 3 (2) Penultimate line – amend to read – “appointed” instead of “elected”
Rule 8 Add as additional officials of the League :-
1) Disciplinary Panel Secretary and
2) Cup Competitions Secretary
Rule 16
iii) Amend to read:-Clubs not complying with this rule shall have four points deducted in respect of each team involved.
Rule 21
a) (iv) Amend to read:-In the event of rain interrupted second innings ( when the team batting first were all out or had completed their allotted overs ) The result will be 2 points each if the team batting second are unable to Complete the same number of overs as were available to the team batting first.
Rule 26
e) Amend last sentence to read :-The specific requirements for promotion are as follows :- the minimumrequirements for promotion to Divisions 1 and 2 are
i)hot and cold running water
ii)Ladies and Gentlemens’s Toilets
iii)Shower facilities
iv)Two sight screens
v)Minimum average Ground Mark of 12 ( twelve)
Rule 29 6)
2nd sentence “ The Appeal Panel may confirm, vary or reverse the
Disciplinary Committee decision and shall have the power to increase the
Penalty imposed “
Remainder of the rule stands.
Knockout Competition Rules
Rule 5 A i) Amend to read as follows :-
“Players whom the Management Committee consider to be Senior
Players of League Clubs who also have teams in other Leagues may
Not play in these Competitions.”
B i) Amend to read :-
“Senior Competition” instead of “Senior Competitions”
Rule 6 NEW (i) Each Home team shall telephone the result to the Cup
Competitions Secretary following the match.
Renumber i) and ii) to read ii) and iii)
(ii) To read :- Each team shall also send to the Cup
Competitions secretary the full score sheet of both teams,
including times of commencement and drawing of stumps,
bowling analysis and names of all the players in the match,
Rule 7 D i) Amend to read :-
“Postponed or abandoned matches should be played on the next
available Sunday”
Rule 12 A Amend to read :-
“Senior Competition” - See Rule 7D
Rule 14 Replace “League Secretary” with “Cup Competitions Secretary”
PROPOSED BY GOLDSBOROUGH
We propose that Rule 15 (c )(i) be altered to “ A player may play in any division with the exception of the last 4 matches of the season when a player who has completed 10 inning with the 1st team and has a batting average of over 20 or has taken more than 20 wickets and has a bowling average under 20 shall not be allowed to play for the 2nd team ……………….( continuation as per the existing rule.
NOT APPROVED
( The eligibility rules should depend on the number of completed innings, rather than matches played- it is too easy for an occasional player batting 7 or 8 with a tring of not-outs to have played, or been selected for rained off games, to attain an average of 15. )
Rule 15 (a) The words “ registered with the Nidderdale League “ be added after the word “player” in line 1.
NOT APPROVED
What is the need for the registration of the overseas player before the first day of the season? NOT APPROVED
( The registered player could suffer from serious illness or injury during the season and then clubs could not replace him) See Rule 15 a) last sentence
The rules should make clearer the position of “overseas” players holding E.U. passports. See Rule 15 a) last sentence
( Our “Wednesday “ Australian holds a Dutch Passport; could we have played him in addition to Tony Coulson ?) . See Rule 15 a) last sentence
PROPOSED BY STAVELEY
We propose an addendum to Rule 15 a)
“ An overseas player as defined in Rule 15 a) is not eligible to play in Division 3 to 7” NOT APPROVED
( A number of clubs in the 3rd Division have indicated their support for this proposal especially Raskelf, West Tanfield and Knaresborough Forest )
PROPOSED BY ARTHINGTON
Rule 20 (g) No restriction of the number of overs for a bowler.
NOT APPROVED
( We do not retire a batsman’s innings in an arbitrary way. Other leagues do not restrict a bowlers permitted overs. )
IF THE THIS AMENDMENT ABOVE FAILS TO CARRY THEN WE PROPOSE
Rule 20 (g) No bowler may bowl more than 15 overs in any one innings. ( 15 is more logical division of 45 overs than 12 ),
NOT APPROVED
PROPOSED BY PATELEY BRIDGE
The cost of teas be increased to £2.50.
( The current amount has been in operation for some time now, but, as people should be aware, the cost of living has increased and this new amount should help reflect this.) APPROVED
The Rule on Junior Bowling be defined, as this is very unclear at the moment.
( We have had instances in first division this year when umpires have been unclear themselves on this rule, and certainly where no umpires are in attendance at second team games in division four the rule has sparked debate ) NOT APPROVED
KNOCKOUT COMPETITION ATKINSON SWIRES
PROPOSED BY HAMPSTHWAITE
Rule 7 - remove.
NOT APPROVED
Rule 8 - be amended as appropriate.
NOT APPROVED
Rule 9 – remove Reserve and Wath Competitions and replace with
“ All Cup Competitions “
NOT APPROVED
VOTE TO BE TAKEN FROM DIVISION ONE AND TWO TEAMS ONLY
( After another year when the administration of the Senior Knock out has been chaotic, ( No fault of the secretary), the most prestigious Cup for the NADACL has been reduced to a third rate competition, it is time to reconsider the present Rule 7 with reference to playing the games on Sundays.
Already senior league cup matches take preference, as do the NADACL team fixtures ( quite correctly), the Village Knockout fixtures, and even long standing pre-arranged friendly fixtures. This is an insult to the Atkinson Swires Trophy.
Surely it would be more fitting to return to the Tuesday evening games with the
same rules as the other cups. As it is a showpiece for the League, perhaps there is some merit in playing the final on a Sunday with the current format ( 40 overs )
The Senior KO was always intended to be an evening match, whereby lower level teams can spring a surprise, especially if conditions favour them. With the present format, the Div 2 sides have very little chance in a competition so similar to the Saturday league rules, especially now there is the restricted overs rule.
There is a lack of enthusiasm in some clubs for Sunday cricket, and if it was not
compulsory, with a £35 penalty for dropping out, how many teams would enter, especially from Div 2 ? With less Sunday games the representative side would perhaps be able to persuade some of the better cricketers to play on the few Sundays when there are fixtures.)
ANY OTHER BUSINESS
There was no other business
DATE OF NEXT MEETING
To be arranged after the Annual General Meeting Date January 19th 2004 at Ripley Town Hall. At 7.30pm.